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Kevin Allen
Commissioner
Location: Ypsilanti, MI
Joined: 02.08.2020

Aug 15 @ 7:46 PM ET
Kevin Allen: These six players would already be signed in normal UFA market It's hard to believe that Kadri, Kessel, Gagner and Stastny aren't signed.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Aug 16 @ 11:49 AM ET
Kevin Allen: These six players would already be signed in normal UFA market
It's hard to believe that Kadri, Kessel, Gagner and Stastny aren't signed.

- Kevin Allen


Yeah because there are never any UFA’s that sign late in the summer in other years.
Cooleus
Joined: 04.13.2021

Aug 16 @ 12:46 PM ET
Last summer, there were dozens and dozens of players signing during August, September, even into October. Not just RFAs, but plenty of UFAs as well. Remember there was a day in September when Lou announced 4 signings all at once - Palmieri, Cizikas, Sorokin, Beauvillier. Matthias Ekholm was still a UFA before finally deciding to sign with Nashville in mid-October. So this is nothing new.

As for guys like Kessel, you keep referring to his 52 points last season without acknowledging that since Arizona was so thin on talent, Kessel was playing 17+ minutes and featured on the #1 PP unit. How many other teams would use Kessel in that role? Practically zero. He'd end up in the bottom 6 and maybe get some mop up duty on a 2nd PP unit. Does he have the skills to excel in the bottom 6? No, he's awful defensively (worst on the Coyotes), can't skate, doesn't hit, doesn't PK. Why would I sign him for $1M if he can't fill that role. Instead, he'll latch on to another terrible team - probably the Coyotes again - where he can still play a top 6 role.

Then you report that a contender will likely sign Subban? My money would be on a team that isn't close to contention. If my window to win is now I don't want some reclamation project that appears to be a defensive black hole. Again, someone like Arizona or San Jose or Philly can bring in Subban for $1M. If he excels then they move him for a pick at the deadline.
Octavarium
New York Islanders
Joined: 01.03.2007

Aug 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
Subban will retire.

Kessel would be fun on hotdog night.
Tee56
Joined: 10.02.2017

Aug 16 @ 1:56 PM ET

P.K. Subban has made plenty of money, what he doesn’t have is a Stanley Cup Ring.

Does he have the fight to chase It? This is only reason he should still suit up is for the CUP and not the CASH.


John Tonelli for HOF
dothedougie
Boston Bruins
Location: DISCLAIMER: HEAVY SARCASM FILTER, CO
Joined: 10.24.2013

Aug 16 @ 2:13 PM ET
Kessel will sign wherever he can have hot dogs and beer on the bench. EZ money and all you can eat ballpark franks.
PDO-Speedwagon
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Match Penalty
Joined: 12.09.2021

Aug 16 @ 2:42 PM ET
All of them belong in a nursing home.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Aug 16 @ 2:55 PM ET
I hope the cap stays that way It actually makes GM's due their jobs instead of throwing money around like it is free money welfare. They make enough money.
I hope the salary cap never goes up and then learn to work within in confines of the real world. Insanity has to stop sometime. Why is it never enough. One day you will be lucky to afford to go to a handful of games because the ticket prices are inflated.
Oh wait INFLATION, There is a tricky word Reduce inflation Tell me how you do that when you spend money like a sailor on shore leave.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Aug 16 @ 3:05 PM ET
I hope the cap stays that way It actually makes GM's due their jobs instead of throwing money around like it is free money welfare. They make enough money.
I hope the salary cap never goes up and then learn to work within in confines of the real world. Insanity has to stop sometime. Why is it never enough. One day you will be lucky to afford to go to a handful of games because the ticket prices are inflated.
Oh wait INFLATION, There is a tricky word Reduce inflation Tell me how you do that when you spend money like a sailor on shore leave.

- broncohorvath

Due their job
VinnyP
New York Rangers
Location: Huntersville, NC
Joined: 10.02.2014

Aug 16 @ 3:32 PM ET
GM's know it's a young man's sport.

Out with the old and in with the new.

Especially if the "new" are all on ELC's.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Aug 16 @ 4:35 PM ET
Last summer, there were dozens and dozens of players signing during August, September, even into October. Not just RFAs, but plenty of UFAs as well. Remember there was a day in September when Lou announced 4 signings all at once - Palmieri, Cizikas, Sorokin, Beauvillier. Matthias Ekholm was still a UFA before finally deciding to sign with Nashville in mid-October. So this is nothing new.

As for guys like Kessel, you keep referring to his 52 points last season without acknowledging that since Arizona was so thin on talent, Kessel was playing 17+ minutes and featured on the #1 PP unit. How many other teams would use Kessel in that role? Practically zero. He'd end up in the bottom 6 and maybe get some mop up duty on a 2nd PP unit. Does he have the skills to excel in the bottom 6? No, he's awful defensively (worst on the Coyotes), can't skate, doesn't hit, doesn't PK. Why would I sign him for $1M if he can't fill that role. Instead, he'll latch on to another terrible team - probably the Coyotes again - where he can still play a top 6 role.

Then you report that a contender will likely sign Subban? My money would be on a team that isn't close to contention. If my window to win is now I don't want some reclamation project that appears to be a defensive black hole. Again, someone like Arizona or San Jose or Philly can bring in Subban for $1M. If he excels then they move him for a pick at the deadline.

- Cooleus


August is basically '' how desperate are you to continue your nhl career '' .
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Aug 16 @ 4:57 PM ET
Due their job
- eichiefs9


Yeah do their job They are like the govt It is easy to spend someone elses money
Be responsible and fiscally accountable It is called doing your job.
Throwing money around is just plain stupid unless it is not yours. If it is not your money you could care less
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Aug 16 @ 6:27 PM ET
I hope the cap stays that way It actually makes GM's due their jobs instead of throwing money around like it is free money welfare. They make enough money.
I hope the salary cap never goes up and then learn to work within in confines of the real world. Insanity has to stop sometime. Why is it never enough. One day you will be lucky to afford to go to a handful of games because the ticket prices are inflated.
Oh wait INFLATION, There is a tricky word Reduce inflation Tell me how you do that when you spend money like a sailor on shore leave.

- broncohorvath


I love you.
Only_A_Ladd
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Sabres VERY Much in Hellebuyck Hearing they are the closest treat to getting a deal…bu a mile., CA
Joined: 06.06.2013

Aug 16 @ 6:28 PM ET
Yeah do their job They are like the govt It is easy to spend someone elses money
Be responsible and fiscally accountable It is called doing your job.
Throwing money around is just plain stupid unless it is not yours. If it is not your money you could care less

- broncohorvath


This is art.
BringNYIhome
New York Islanders
Location: Smithtown , NY
Joined: 04.10.2016

Aug 16 @ 8:20 PM ET
Does this add anything of value to our lives?
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Aug 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
Does this add anything of value to our lives?
- BringNYIhome


Of course not None of these made up sites with rumors mean anything A bunch of yentas that have nothing better to do than make up fake news And idiots subscribe to this crap It is amazing
Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 16 @ 10:42 PM ET
I hope the cap stays that way It actually makes GM's due their jobs instead of throwing money around like it is free money welfare. They make enough money.
I hope the salary cap never goes up and then learn to work within in confines of the real world. Insanity has to stop sometime. Why is it never enough. One day you will be lucky to afford to go to a handful of games because the ticket prices are inflated.
Oh wait INFLATION, There is a tricky word Reduce inflation Tell me how you do that when you spend money like a sailor on shore leave.

- broncohorvath


I always try to dew my job. Right now I’m trying to due my do diligence so that I can make the right moves to navigate this inflationary environment. What’s the probability that we get stagflation?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 17 @ 8:16 AM ET
Yeah do their job They are like the govt It is easy to spend someone elses money
Be responsible and fiscally accountable It is called doing your job.
Throwing money around is just plain stupid unless it is not yours. If it is not your money you could care less

- broncohorvath

Something you can relate to.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Aug 17 @ 8:17 AM ET
I always try to dew my job. Right now I’m trying to due my do diligence so that I can make the right moves to navigate this inflationary environment. What’s the probability that we get stagflation?
- Minnyhock

It’s transitory stagflation you capitalist bastard.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Aug 17 @ 9:19 AM ET
would love Stastny or Subban on the Bruins, especially if you look at who they would replace at a similar or lesser cap hit on the roster.
broncohorvath
Joined: 12.20.2012

Aug 17 @ 11:41 AM ET
It’s transitory stagflation you capitalist bastard.
- Cptmjl


I dare you to explain that stupid statement WOKE Cancel culture morons
PDO-Speedwagon
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Match Penalty
Joined: 12.09.2021

Aug 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
I dare you to explain that stupid statement WOKE Cancel culture morons
- broncohorvath

Defending capitalism without owning any means of production is just a fancy way of saying you enjoy the taste of boots.

You are not a capitalist worker, you are a wage-slave with Stockholm Syndrome. But yeah, go ahead and keep losing sleep over non-issues like "woke" crap and politics.

PDO-Speedwagon
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Match Penalty
Joined: 12.09.2021

Aug 17 @ 11:49 AM ET
It’s transitory stagflation you capitalist bastard.
- Cptmjl

Don't waste your time trying to explain economics to somebody who is obsessed over whether a swimmer has cock and balls or not. All working taxpayers have a boot on their throat and these clowns are worried whether it's a left boot or a right boot. They'll die on their hill of keeping billionaires happy because abortion, woke, gay wedding cakes, trans swimmers, minority castings in Netflix shows, etc. You may as well try explaining economics to a vegetable.

Minnyhock
Minnesota Wild
Joined: 06.26.2021

Aug 17 @ 11:51 AM ET
Stastny, Rodriguez and Gagner give you the best bang for the buck. It’s a good deal if someone can get Stastny for $2 mil. Gagner and Rodrigues are 25-30 point players. I could see someone overpaying for Rodrigues after his last season.
77emac77
Boston Bruins
Location: Duct tape cant fix stupid but it can muffle the sound, MA
Joined: 04.22.2010

Aug 17 @ 2:08 PM ET
Don't waste your time trying to explain economics to somebody who is obsessed over whether a swimmer has cock and balls or not. All working taxpayers have a boot on their throat and these clowns are worried whether it's a left boot or a right boot. They'll die on their hill of keeping billionaires happy because abortion, woke, gay wedding cakes, trans swimmers, minority castings in Netflix shows, etc. You may as well try explaining economics to a vegetable.
- PDO-Speedwagon


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